These are awesome shorts for those not wanting thighs on display, at 9 inches they come down to almost the knee on me. I wear them hiking and they are super comfortable. They also have zip up pockets that hold a large phone. It seems they have possibly been discontinued.... if so, Lululemon, please bring them back! I would buy these shorts in multiple colours. They are the only Lululemon style that is loose and has full thigh coverage and a secure phone pocket that are actually suitable to exercise in that I have seen.